UPS-Forced Shut Down

system · July 25, 2000, 8:34am

So get a diesel powered one. I opted for natural gas for
low maintenance.

Lydia Coffman wrote:

>
> Of course, in California, the last thing you want in the event of an
> earthquake (a common cause of a power outage) is a natural gas generator
> system permanently hooked up to your network. Can you say fuel supply?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Konecny [mailto:jkonecn@...]
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 1:49 PM
> To: vantage@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] UPS-Forced Shut Down
>
> Dayton 5KW. Runs on natural gas. I agree that the
> system doesn't _need_ to be up when the plant is down.
> However, this way I don't have to come in at 3am to
> start everything back up. That's if I'm available.
> The phone system is connect so it stays up too.
> hen you take a hard drive that has been running
> for 3-4 years and shut it off, that is when it
> isn't going to start again. See it happen one too
> many times.
>

system · July 24, 2000, 4:22pm

Buy a generator!!!

steve_polatas@... wrote:

>
> I was wondering how everyone has their UPS configured to shut down
> their Vantage database in the event of a power failure.
> Specifically, have you created a file that you have your UPS software
> execute prior to server shutdown? If yes, what does the file
> contain, i.e. what command sequence will quickly and gracefully shut
> down the database and anything else that needs to be shut down?
>
> Steve Polatas
> IT Manager
> Wrayco Industries, Inc.

system · July 24, 2000, 4:34pm

How about you answer the question Joe and don't just say buy a generator.
That's obviously not the answer anyone is looking for let alone be cost
effective.

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system · July 24, 2000, 4:38pm

I found it to be very cost effective. Now our system stays up
24 hours a day no matter what happens. There are no worries
when a storm rolls through at 3am. No worries when I'm on
vacation. No worries when maintenance kills the power by
accident. Cost was only about $5000 so it's not unreasonable.

dposkevich@... wrote:

>
> How about you answer the question Joe and don't just say buy a generator.
> That's obviously not the answer anyone is looking for let alone be cost
> effective.
>
> _________________
> Dave Poskevich
> Systems Analyst
> PRECISION MACHINE AND MANUFACTURING COMPANY

system · July 24, 2000, 4:41pm

What kind of backup generator did you purchase? In my situation, the odds
of needing a backup generator are almost zero considering the server can
run on UPS battery for 90 minutes. If any power outage lasts that long
it's not going to matter that the server is down when the rest of the
manufacturing plant is down anyway.

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system · July 24, 2000, 4:46pm

Take a look in your Epicor\Progress\Bin directory for PROSHUT.BAT This
batch file is described in the Progress help system. The batch program will
allow you to command a shut-down of the Progress database. You will, of
course, need to invoke the batch program, (after you have modified it to
match your specific condition), from your UPS shut-down system.

Dale Puls
Pacesetter Electronics

-----Original Message-----
From: dposkevich@...
[mailto:dposkevich@...]
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 3:40 PM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] UPS-Forced Shut Down

What kind of backup generator did you purchase? In my situation, the odds
of needing a backup generator are almost zero considering the server can
run on UPS battery for 90 minutes. If any power outage lasts that long
it's not going to matter that the server is down when the rest of the
manufacturing plant is down anyway.

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system · July 24, 2000, 4:48pm

Dayton 5KW. Runs on natural gas. I agree that the
system doesn't _need_ to be up when the plant is down.
However, this way I don't have to come in at 3am to
start everything back up. That's if I'm available.
The phone system is connect so it stays up too.
hen you take a hard drive that has been running
for 3-4 years and shut it off, that is when it
isn't going to start again. See it happen one too
many times.

dposkevich@... wrote:

>
> What kind of backup generator did you purchase? In my situation, the odds
> of needing a backup generator are almost zero considering the server can
> run on UPS battery for 90 minutes. If any power outage lasts that long
> it's not going to matter that the server is down when the rest of the
> manufacturing plant is down anyway.

system · July 24, 2000, 4:49pm

Also I have 6 servers to keep up so 90 minutes for each one
is starting to get in the $1000's of dollars anyway.

dposkevich@... wrote:

>
> What kind of backup generator did you purchase? In my situation, the odds
> of needing a backup generator are almost zero considering the server can
> run on UPS battery for 90 minutes. If any power outage lasts that long
> it's not going to matter that the server is down when the rest of the
> manufacturing plant is down anyway.

system · July 24, 2000, 6:51pm

Of course, in California, the last thing you want in the event of an
earthquake (a common cause of a power outage) is a natural gas generator
system permanently hooked up to your network. Can you say fuel supply?

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Konecny [mailto:jkonecn@...]
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 1:49 PM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] UPS-Forced Shut Down

Dayton 5KW. Runs on natural gas. I agree that the
system doesn't _need_ to be up when the plant is down.
However, this way I don't have to come in at 3am to
start everything back up. That's if I'm available.
The phone system is connect so it stays up too.
hen you take a hard drive that has been running
for 3-4 years and shut it off, that is when it
isn't going to start again. See it happen one too
many times.

dposkevich@... wrote:

>
> What kind of backup generator did you purchase? In my situation, the odds
> of needing a backup generator are almost zero considering the server can
> run on UPS battery for 90 minutes. If any power outage lasts that long
> it's not going to matter that the server is down when the rest of the
> manufacturing plant is down anyway.

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system · July 24, 2000, 8:49pm

APC has a good utility that will run a file that you designate upon power loss.
It is on their site. I think that it is free. If you change the batch file
a little, or
write your own, you can run proshut.bat before performing an automatic
shutdown.

Marvin R. Myers
Computer Systems Engineer
marvin@...

At 03:47 PM 07/24/2000 -0500, you wrote:

>Take a look in your Epicor\Progress\Bin directory for PROSHUT.BAT This
>batch file is described in the Progress help system. The batch program will
>allow you to command a shut-down of the Progress database. You will, of
>course, need to invoke the batch program, (after you have modified it to
>match your specific condition), from your UPS shut-down system.
>
>Dale Puls
>Pacesetter Electronics
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dposkevich@...
>[mailto:dposkevich@...]
>Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 3:40 PM
>To: vantage@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Vantage] UPS-Forced Shut Down
>
>
>
>What kind of backup generator did you purchase? In my situation, the odds
>of needing a backup generator are almost zero considering the server can
>run on UPS battery for 90 minutes. If any power outage lasts that long
>it's not going to matter that the server is down when the rest of the
>manufacturing plant is down anyway.
>
>
>
>
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