Global Finite Scheduling


(system) #1
What about the load level tool in the scheduling board?  I believe you should be able to put the jobs in the order you want to run them, and then load level will finitely schedule them.  The results will all be in a what-if mode, so you can tweak the results if you don't like them.


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 Darn!  Thanks very much for your reply Rob.... I needed to post to ensure that there wasn't some setting or other tool I was missing. 
 
Nancy


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The only standard tool that moves other jobs in relationship to jobs around them is global scheduling. Any of the other scheduling boards only moves jobs/assemblies/ops in isolation.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nhoyt111@...
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:43 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Global Finite Scheduling



Good Morning,



Per some of my other recent posts :) we are trying to use GFS in the system (version 9.05.607B). We have started with just one area of our facility that is a known bottleneck (lab testing).



So far we are doing a global finite run on Friday mornings (BTW we run mrp nightly). In order to do GFS run on Friday, we're adjusting the global scheduling order by querying all our open engineered jobs with lab test operations and then delete all other jobs (without lab testing) off of the adjust list. Additionally, we are allowing the default backwards scheduling on any lab test job with a required date out later than 2 weeks from Friday GFS run day with the rest of the lab test jobs (imminent ones) forward scheduled.



Now for the conundrum... we use the multi resource scheduling board to make visible to the lab manager (our champion!) all of the jobs in his area over a few week window, with ability to move around jobs as needed. We didn't realize it until yesterday that when he moves a job and clicks "finite" on it, it puts the job where it fits, NOT moving other jobs out of the way, showing "effects" of movement of subject job on other jobs. This is a big bummer for our champion. If he doesn't click finite, we can see the overload where he wants to fit it, but then he has to manually fix that.



Does anyone have any suggestions for how to allow our lab area to "play" with moving jobs and see downstream effects on jobs pushed out due to "play" without global finite run? We've tried GFS run in "what if" mode, but that doesn't seem to help at all. We have to massage the list, per our sole lab test area and scheduling direction, and run on many jobs, only to see effect on a couple of jobs "played" around with.



Thanks very much for your thoughts,

Nancy



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(system) #2
Does anyone know when and how often to run Global Finite
Scheduling? We run it several times a day with tomorrows date as
the start date. Should we be using todays date? Should we only do
it once a day?

Thanks!
Ben

(system) #3
Do you own the MRP module ?



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From: bbelzer42 [mailto:bbelzer@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:38 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Global Finite Scheduling




Does anyone know when and how often to run Global Finite
Scheduling? We run it several times a day with tomorrows date as
the start date. Should we be using todays date? Should we only do
it once a day?

Thanks!
Ben





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(system) #4
No, we have version 6.10 but no MRP.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Clint Muhlestein"
<cmuhlestein@k...> wrote:
> Do you own the MRP module ?
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: bbelzer42 [mailto:bbelzer@t...]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:38 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Global Finite Scheduling
>
>
>
>
> Does anyone know when and how often to run Global Finite
> Scheduling? We run it several times a day with tomorrows date as
> the start date. Should we be using todays date? Should we only
do
> it once a day?
>
> Thanks!
> Ben
>
>
>
>
>
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(system) #5
Hi Everyone,

I am planning to use Global Finite Scheduling to help avoiding over
capacity.

Anyone has used this Global Finite Scheduling? any impact or must be
aware of. What is the best procedures to implement this GFS?

Would like to have yout input.

Thanks,

Nam

(system) #6
Global Finite Scheduling is releasing jobs before material is
available. It is also scheduling higher level jobs to start before any
lower level required job can complete. Has any one had this problem and
been able to fix it ?

We do not setup our ABoms to Make on Assembly.

We are on Vantage version 6.1

(system) #7
We have been testing the Global Finite Scheduler for several weeks with
very limited success. It does reschedule the Jobs and operations,
however we have not been able to get the tool to schedule top level jobs
and lower level jobs in the right date location to support the higher
level build requirements.

(Example) A lower level Job that goes into the next higher level Job is
scheduled to complete 5 - 10 days after the higher level job is
scheduled to start.

Our ABOM's are not setup as make on assembly which may be causing this
problem, but according to the Vantage GFS notes the scheduling of jobs
is based on the availability of Work Center Capacity and materials in
stock or the material Lead-time.

We are submitting a copy of our database to epicor for their review to
see if we have any system setting problems before we continue on with
our testing.

-----Original Message-----
From: meco_inc_paris [mailto:admin@...]
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:41 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Global Finite Scheduling

I am curious of any information you can relay to me regarding global
scheduling. We have just went to global forwarding and I am
wondering if you run the global scheduling then mrp and what issues
you have had with the global schedule or any help you can offer.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Lepley, Scott A." <sal@...> wrote:
>
> What version are you running, Nam?
>
>
>
> I am considering this as well. Unfortunately, at this point, we
only use
> the job scheduling function to facilitate the calculations related
to
> time-phase material requirements and purchase suggestions. We are
not using
> Scheduling to plan/monitor/adjust production capacity for two
basic reasons.
> Firstly and primarily, many of our jobs are not sufficiently
planned
> operationally to be conducive to scheduling. Secondly, nobody
seems
> interested in using the scheduling boards. I'm thinking that
perhaps we
> don't have anything to lose by running GFS, but I've been
cautioned in the
> past about doing this. I was advised just to use Job Scheduling
and then
> adjust the production schedule using the scheduling boards, but
that brings
> me right back to my previous statement. Anyway, I would be
particularly
> interested in hearing about pitfalls that others have encountered
with GFS.
>
>
>
> Regards,
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: progress92000 [mailto:nvong@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:52 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Global Finite Scheduling
>
>
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I am planning to use Global Finite Scheduling to help avoiding
over
> capacity.
>
> Anyone has used this Global Finite Scheduling? any impact or must
be
> aware of. What is the best procedures to implement this GFS?
>
> Would like to have yout input.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nam
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>







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(system) #8

Good Morning,

 

Per some of my other recent posts :) we are trying to use GFS in the system (version 9.05.607B).  We have started with just one area of our facility that is a known bottleneck (lab testing). 

 

So far we are doing a global finite run on Friday mornings (BTW we run mrp nightly).  In order to do GFS run on Friday, we're adjusting the global scheduling order by querying all our open engineered jobs with lab test operations and then delete all other jobs (without lab testing) off of the adjust list.  Additionally, we are allowing the default backwards scheduling on any lab test job with a required date out later than 2 weeks from Friday GFS run day with the rest of the lab test jobs (imminent ones) forward scheduled.

 

Now for the conundrum... we use the multi resource scheduling board to make visible to the lab manager (our champion!) all of the jobs in his area over a few week window, with ability to move around jobs as needed.  We didn't realize it until yesterday that when he moves a job and clicks "finite" on it, it puts the job where it fits, NOT moving other jobs out of the way, showing "effects" of movement of subject job on other jobs.  This is a big bummer for our champion.  If he doesn't click finite, we can see the overload where he wants to fit it, but then he has to manually fix that. 

 

Does anyone have any suggestions for how to allow our lab area to "play" with moving jobs and see downstream effects on jobs pushed out due to "play" without global finite run?  We've tried GFS run in "what if" mode, but that doesn't seem to help at all.  We have to massage the list, per our sole lab test area and scheduling direction, and run on many jobs, only to see effect on a couple of jobs "played" around with.

 

Thanks very much for your thoughts,

Nancy


(system) #9
The only standard tool that moves other jobs in relationship to jobs around them is global scheduling. Any of the other scheduling boards only moves jobs/assemblies/ops in isolation.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nhoyt111@...
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:43 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Global Finite Scheduling



Good Morning,



Per some of my other recent posts :) we are trying to use GFS in the system (version 9.05.607B). We have started with just one area of our facility that is a known bottleneck (lab testing).



So far we are doing a global finite run on Friday mornings (BTW we run mrp nightly). In order to do GFS run on Friday, we're adjusting the global scheduling order by querying all our open engineered jobs with lab test operations and then delete all other jobs (without lab testing) off of the adjust list. Additionally, we are allowing the default backwards scheduling on any lab test job with a required date out later than 2 weeks from Friday GFS run day with the rest of the lab test jobs (imminent ones) forward scheduled.



Now for the conundrum... we use the multi resource scheduling board to make visible to the lab manager (our champion!) all of the jobs in his area over a few week window, with ability to move around jobs as needed. We didn't realize it until yesterday that when he moves a job and clicks "finite" on it, it puts the job where it fits, NOT moving other jobs out of the way, showing "effects" of movement of subject job on other jobs. This is a big bummer for our champion. If he doesn't click finite, we can see the overload where he wants to fit it, but then he has to manually fix that.



Does anyone have any suggestions for how to allow our lab area to "play" with moving jobs and see downstream effects on jobs pushed out due to "play" without global finite run? We've tried GFS run in "what if" mode, but that doesn't seem to help at all. We have to massage the list, per our sole lab test area and scheduling direction, and run on many jobs, only to see effect on a couple of jobs "played" around with.



Thanks very much for your thoughts,

Nancy



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(system) #10

 Darn!  Thanks very much for your reply Rob.... I needed to post to ensure that there wasn't some setting or other tool I was missing. 

 

Nancy



---In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <vantage@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

The only standard tool that moves other jobs in relationship to jobs around them is global scheduling. Any of the other scheduling boards only moves jobs/assemblies/ops in isolation.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nhoyt111@...
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:43 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Global Finite Scheduling



Good Morning,



Per some of my other recent posts :) we are trying to use GFS in the system (version 9.05.607B). We have started with just one area of our facility that is a known bottleneck (lab testing).



So far we are doing a global finite run on Friday mornings (BTW we run mrp nightly). In order to do GFS run on Friday, we're adjusting the global scheduling order by querying all our open engineered jobs with lab test operations and then delete all other jobs (without lab testing) off of the adjust list. Additionally, we are allowing the default backwards scheduling on any lab test job with a required date out later than 2 weeks from Friday GFS run day with the rest of the lab test jobs (imminent ones) forward scheduled.



Now for the conundrum... we use the multi resource scheduling board to make visible to the lab manager (our champion!) all of the jobs in his area over a few week window, with ability to move around jobs as needed. We didn't realize it until yesterday that when he moves a job and clicks "finite" on it, it puts the job where it fits, NOT moving other jobs out of the way, showing "effects" of movement of subject job on other jobs. This is a big bummer for our champion. If he doesn't click finite, we can see the overload where he wants to fit it, but then he has to manually fix that.



Does anyone have any suggestions for how to allow our lab area to "play" with moving jobs and see downstream effects on jobs pushed out due to "play" without global finite run? We've tried GFS run in "what if" mode, but that doesn't seem to help at all. We have to massage the list, per our sole lab test area and scheduling direction, and run on many jobs, only to see effect on a couple of jobs "played" around with.



Thanks very much for your thoughts,

Nancy



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