Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

system · September 25, 2013, 12:29pm

Lucky us.

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Cathy
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 6:38 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Re: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

We also have a DD that locks only the quantity when the status is changed to released without any problems with MRP.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Buckman
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 4:20 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Re: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

We have a DD on the JobHead table that locks the quantity when the status is changed to Released. It has caused no problem with MRP to date.

- Neil

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Bucek
Sent: Wednesday, 25 September 2013 8:51 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: Re: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

For the life of me I canâ€™t remember if I had a standard or in-transaction on the jobhead, and all I was doing was updating a shortchar field and when MRP ran it really hosed the demand links, it was making coparts and all kinds of crazy stuff. Working with support they said the developers told them donâ€™t put DD on the jobhead table. Now I donâ€™t know if thatâ€™s just some standard response type thing or what. I didnâ€™t have time to shake it out so I removed the DD and my issues went away. Just a heads upâ€¦test thoroughly.

Rob Bucek
Production Control Manager
PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311
Mobile: (715)896-4832
FAX: (715)284-4084
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Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:12 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: Re: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

This is timely for us. Right now we are considering a data directive bpm to limit who can edit and save locked checkbox on job header. This is because we have discovered that Scheduling boards allow job locking and the people who can review the scheduling board are not necessarily who can lock a job.

Rob, is the concern ANY data directive on jobhead?

Thanks

Nancy

---In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com>, <vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
If you run mrp don't put a data directive on jobhead...that's really bad

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

rbird@... wrote:

A Data Directive sounds like the easiest way by far for this.

FYI - I have found myself using Data Directives more than BPM's.

BPM are great if you need a trigger on an event - Evaluates Methods

Data Directives are great is you need a trigger based on a data value changing - Evaluates Data

-Rick

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com>, <msantillan@...<mailto:msantillan@...>> wrote:

Most of our jobs are Released through Job Entry. So I needed to created two BPMs.

One on GetNewJob for any new job created from scratch and the other on Update when FIRM changes from any to any.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Brown
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 2:33 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

It can be done via customization (we started out like that) but it is yet another drag on client app performance. BPM is the way to go.

SC could handle it as well (or DMT - but that is defintely not a user tool).

From: "gmcbroom@...<mailto:gmcbroom@...>" <gmcbroom@...<mailto:gmcbroom@...>>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 1:52 PM
Subject: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

For the majority of jobs, I just click the box manually since we couldn't find a way to set it as a default or make it a mass update in the Job Status Maintenance screen. When I have a large group of jobs to lock the quantity and change the priority I use an outside Macro Keystroke Recorder program. Record it once and play it back 468 times!

Georgia

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com>, <msantillan@...<mailto:msantillan@...>> wrote:

I just was wondering if I was missing something that was as simple as a checkbox. I had the data directive in mind.

On a side note, not all the replies are coming to my mailbox...sorry for the late reply.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com>, <jgiese@...<mailto:jgiese@...>> wrote:

Without a BPM can get pretty tricky depending on how Epicor is creating/setting the data. From a screen customization some things just canâ€™t be overridden from what I have experienced. Is there a specific reason you canâ€™t use a BPM?

Josh

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Subject: [Vantage] Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

Just like a default.

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system · September 6, 2013, 6:25pm

Just like a default.

system · September 6, 2013, 7:00pm

Without a BPM can get pretty tricky depending on how Epicor is creating/setting the data. From a screen customization some things just can’t be overridden from what I have experienced. Is there a specific reason you can’t use a BPM?

Josh

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Miguel Santillan
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2013 5:25 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

Just like a default.

system · September 6, 2013, 7:01pm

You would have to do it through customizations….

But a data directive would be the easiest quickest solution.

Data directive on the jobhead table:

For each ttjobhead no-lock:

Assign ttjobhead.lockqty = true.

End.

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Miguel Santillan
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 3:25 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

Just like a default.

system · September 11, 2013, 1:02pm

I just was wondering if I was missing something that was as simple as a checkbox. I had the data directive in mind.

On a side note, not all the replies are coming to my mailbox...sorry for the late reply.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <jgiese@...> wrote:

system · September 11, 2013, 1:52pm

For the majority of jobs, I just click the box manually since we couldn't find a way to set it as a default or make it a mass update in the Job Status Maintenance screen. When I have a large group of jobs to lock the quantity and change the priority I use an outside Macro Keystroke Recorder program. Record it once and play it back 468 times!

Georgia

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <msantillan@...> wrote:

I just was wondering if I was missing something that was as simple as a checkbox. I had the data directive in mind.

On a side note, not all the replies are coming to my mailbox...sorry for the late reply.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <jgiese@...> wrote:

system · September 12, 2013, 6:25am

Maybe set the form to auto populate the field - ie:

Private Sub edvSchedControl_EpiViewNotification(ByVal view As EpiDataView, ByVal args As EpiNotifyArgs)

' ** Argument Properties and Uses **

' view.dataView(args.Row)("FieldName")

' args.Row, args.Column, args.Sender, args.NotifyType

' NotifyType.Initialize, NotifyType.AddRow, NotifyType.DeleteRow, NotifyType.InitLastView, NotifyType.InitAndResetTreeNodes

If (args.NotifyType = EpiTransaction.NotifyType.Initialize) Then

If (args.Row > -1) Then

view.dataView(args.Row)("LockQty") = TRUE

End If

End Sub

Brenda

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gmcbroom@...
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 1:53 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

For the majority of jobs, I just click the box manually since we couldn't find a way to set it as a default or make it a mass update in the Job Status Maintenance screen. When I have a large group of jobs to lock the quantity and change the priority I use an outside Macro Keystroke Recorder program. Record it once and play it back 468 times!

Georgia

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <msantillan@...> wrote:

I just was wondering if I was missing something that was as simple as a checkbox. I had the data directive in mind.

On a side note, not all the replies are coming to my mailbox...sorry for the late reply.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <jgiese@...> wrote:

Without a BPM can get pretty tricky depending on how Epicor is creating/setting the data. From a screen customization some things just canâ€™t be overridden from what I have experienced. Is there a specific reason you canâ€™t use a BPM?

Josh

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Miguel Santillan
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2013 5:25 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

Just like a default.

system · September 14, 2013, 5:36pm

It can be done via customization (we started out like that) but it is yet another drag on client app performance. BPM is the way to go.

SC could handle it as well (or DMT - but that is defintely not a user tool).

From: "gmcbroom@..." <gmcbroom@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 1:52 PM
Subject: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

For the majority of jobs, I just click the box manually since we couldn't find a way to set it as a default or make it a mass update in the Job Status Maintenance screen. When I have a large group of jobs to lock the quantity and change the priority I use an outside Macro Keystroke Recorder program. Record it once and play it back 468 times!

Georgia

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <msantillan@...> wrote:

I just was wondering if I was missing something that was as simple as a checkbox. I had the data directive in mind.

On a side note, not all the replies are coming to my mailbox...sorry for the late reply.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <jgiese@...> wrote:

Without a BPM can get pretty tricky depending on how Epicor is creating/setting the data. From a screen customization some things just canâ€™t be overridden from what I have experienced. Is there a specific reason you canâ€™t use a BPM?

Josh

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Miguel Santillan
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2013 5:25 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

Just like a default.

system · September 16, 2013, 10:58am

Most of our jobs are Released through Job Entry. So I needed to created two BPMs.

One on GetNewJob for any new job created from scratch and the other on Update when FIRM changes from any to any.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Brown
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 2:33 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

It can be done via customization (we started out like that) but it is yet another drag on client app performance. BPM is the way to go.

SC could handle it as well (or DMT - but that is defintely not a user tool).

From: "gmcbroom@..." <gmcbroom@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 1:52 PM
Subject: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

For the majority of jobs, I just click the box manually since we couldn't find a way to set it as a default or make it a mass update in the Job Status Maintenance screen. When I have a large group of jobs to lock the quantity and change the priority I use an outside Macro Keystroke Recorder program. Record it once and play it back 468 times!

Georgia

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <msantillan@...> wrote:

I just was wondering if I was missing something that was as simple as a checkbox. I had the data directive in mind.

On a side note, not all the replies are coming to my mailbox...sorry for the late reply.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <jgiese@...> wrote:

Without a BPM can get pretty tricky depending on how Epicor is creating/setting the data. From a screen customization some things just canâ€™t be overridden from what I have experienced. Is there a specific reason you canâ€™t use a BPM?

Josh

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Miguel Santillan
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2013 5:25 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

Just like a default.

system · September 23, 2013, 5:16pm

A Data Directive sounds like the easiest way by far for this.

FYI - I have found myself using Data Directives more than BPM's.

BPM are great if you need a trigger on an event - Evaluates Methods

Data Directives are great is you need a trigger based on a data value changing - Evaluates Data

-Rick

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <msantillan@...> wrote:

Most of our jobs are Released through Job Entry. So I needed to created two BPMs.

One on GetNewJob for any new job created from scratch and the other on Update when FIRM changes from any to any.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Brown
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 2:33 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

It can be done via customization (we started out like that) but it is yet another drag on client app performance. BPM is the way to go.

SC could handle it as well (or DMT - but that is defintely not a user tool).

From: "gmcbroom@..." <gmcbroom@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 1:52 PM
Subject: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

For the majority of jobs, I just click the box manually since we couldn't find a way to set it as a default or make it a mass update in the Job Status Maintenance screen. When I have a large group of jobs to lock the quantity and change the priority I use an outside Macro Keystroke Recorder program. Record it once and play it back 468 times!

Georgia

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <msantillan@...> wrote:

I just was wondering if I was missing something that was as simple as a checkbox. I had the data directive in mind.

On a side note, not all the replies are coming to my mailbox...sorry for the late reply.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <jgiese@...> wrote:

Without a BPM can get pretty tricky depending on how Epicor is creating/setting the data. From a screen customization some things just canâ€™t be overridden from what I have experienced. Is there a specific reason you canâ€™t use a BPM?

Josh

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Miguel Santillan
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2013 5:25 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

Just like a default.

system · September 23, 2013, 5:40pm

We did this with a customization via the form event wizard and some code.

www.practicaltek.com

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rbird@...
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 5:17 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

A Data Directive sounds like the easiest way by far for this.

FYI - I have found myself using Data Directives more than BPM's.

BPM are great if you need a trigger on an event - Evaluates Methods

Data Directives are great is you need a trigger based on a data value changing - Evaluates Data

-Rick

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <msantillan@...> wrote:

Most of our jobs are Released through Job Entry. So I needed to created two BPMs.

One on GetNewJob for any new job created from scratch and the other on Update when FIRM changes from any to any.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Brown
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 2:33 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

It can be done via customization (we started out like that) but it is yet another drag on client app performance. BPM is the way to go.

SC could handle it as well (or DMT - but that is defintely not a user tool).

From: "gmcbroom@..." <gmcbroom@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 1:52 PM
Subject: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

For the majority of jobs, I just click the box manually since we couldn't find a way to set it as a default or make it a mass update in the Job Status Maintenance screen. When I have a large group of jobs to lock the quantity and change the priority I use an outside Macro Keystroke Recorder program. Record it once and play it back 468 times!

Georgia
--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <msantillan@...> wrote:
I just was wondering if I was missing something that was as simple as a checkbox. I had the data directive in mind.

On a side note, not all the replies are coming to my mailbox...sorry for the late reply.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <jgiese@...> wrote:
Without a BPM can get pretty tricky depending on how Epicor is creating/setting the data. From a screen customization some things just canâ€™t be overridden from what I have experienced. Is there a specific reason you canâ€™t use a BPM?

Josh

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Miguel Santillan
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2013 5:25 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

Just like a default.

system · September 23, 2013, 6:11pm

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â If (args.Row > -1) Then

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â view.dataView(args.Row)("LockQty") = TRUE

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â view.dataView(args.Row)("LockDate") = TRUE

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â End If

www.practicaltek.com

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Chance
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 5:40 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

We did this with a customization via the form event wizard and some code.

www.practicaltek.com

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rbird@...
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 5:17 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

A Data Directive sounds like the easiest way by far for this.

FYI - I have found myself using Data Directives more than BPM's.

BPM are great if you need a trigger on an event - Evaluates Methods

Data Directives are great is you need a trigger based on a data value changing - Evaluates Data

-Rick

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <msantillan@...> wrote:

Most of our jobs are Released through Job Entry. So I needed to created two BPMs.

One on GetNewJob for any new job created from scratch and the other on Update when FIRM changes from any to any.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Brown
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 2:33 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

It can be done via customization (we started out like that) but it is yet another drag on client app performance. BPM is the way to go.

SC could handle it as well (or DMT - but that is defintely not a user tool).

From: "gmcbroom@..." <gmcbroom@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 1:52 PM
Subject: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

For the majority of jobs, I just click the box manually since we couldn't find a way to set it as a default or make it a mass update in the Job Status Maintenance screen. When I have a large group of jobs to lock the quantity and change the priority I use an outside Macro Keystroke Recorder program. Record it once and play it back 468 times!

Georgia
--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <msantillan@...> wrote:
I just was wondering if I was missing something that was as simple as a checkbox. I had the data directive in mind.

On a side note, not all the replies are coming to my mailbox...sorry for the late reply.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <jgiese@...> wrote:
Without a BPM can get pretty tricky depending on how Epicor is creating/setting the data. From a screen customization some things just canâ€™t be overridden from what I have experienced. Is there a specific reason you canâ€™t use a BPM?

Josh

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Miguel Santillan
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2013 5:25 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

Just like a default.

system · September 23, 2013, 8:10pm

If you run mrp don't put a data directive on jobhead...that's really bad

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

rbird@... wrote:

A Data Directive sounds like the easiest way by far for this.

FYI - I have found myself using Data Directives more than BPM's.

BPM are great if you need a trigger on an event - Evaluates Methods

Data Directives are great is you need a trigger based on a data value changing - Evaluates Data

-Rick

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <msantillan@...> wrote:

Most of our jobs are Released through Job Entry. So I needed to created two BPMs.

One on GetNewJob for any new job created from scratch and the other on Update when FIRM changes from any to any.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Brown
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 2:33 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

It can be done via customization (we started out like that) but it is yet another drag on client app performance. BPM is the way to go.

SC could handle it as well (or DMT - but that is defintely not a user tool).

From: "gmcbroom@..." <gmcbroom@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 1:52 PM
Subject: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

For the majority of jobs, I just click the box manually since we couldn't find a way to set it as a default or make it a mass update in the Job Status Maintenance screen. When I have a large group of jobs to lock the quantity and change the priority I use an outside Macro Keystroke Recorder program. Record it once and play it back 468 times!

Georgia

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <msantillan@...> wrote:

I just was wondering if I was missing something that was as simple as a checkbox. I had the data directive in mind.

On a side note, not all the replies are coming to my mailbox...sorry for the late reply.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <jgiese@...> wrote:

Without a BPM can get pretty tricky depending on how Epicor is creating/setting the data. From a screen customization some things just canâ€™t be overridden from what I have experienced. Is there a specific reason you canâ€™t use a BPM?

Josh

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Miguel Santillan
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2013 5:25 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

Just like a default.

system · September 24, 2013, 11:11am

This is timely for us. Right now we are considering a data directive bpm to limit who can edit and save locked checkbox on job header. This is because we have discovered that Scheduling boards allow job locking and the people who can review the scheduling board are not necessarily who can lock a job.

Rob, is the concern ANY data directive on jobhead?

Thanks

Nancy

---In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <vantage@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

If you run mrp don't put a data directive on jobhead...that's really bad

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

rbird@... wrote:

A Data Directive sounds like the easiest way by far for this.

FYI - I have found myself using Data Directives more than BPM's.

BPM are great if you need a trigger on an event - Evaluates Methods

Data Directives are great is you need a trigger based on a data value changing - Evaluates Data

-Rick

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <msantillan@...> wrote:

Most of our jobs are Released through Job Entry. So I needed to created two BPMs.

One on GetNewJob for any new job created from scratch and the other on Update when FIRM changes from any to any.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Brown
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 2:33 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

It can be done via customization (we started out like that) but it is yet another drag on client app performance. BPM is the way to go.

SC could handle it as well (or DMT - but that is defintely not a user tool).

From: "gmcbroom@..." <gmcbroom@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 1:52 PM
Subject: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

For the majority of jobs, I just click the box manually since we couldn't find a way to set it as a default or make it a mass update in the Job Status Maintenance screen. When I have a large group of jobs to lock the quantity and change the priority I use an outside Macro Keystroke Recorder program. Record it once and play it back 468 times!

Georgia

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <msantillan@...> wrote:

I just was wondering if I was missing something that was as simple as a checkbox. I had the data directive in mind.

On a side note, not all the replies are coming to my mailbox...sorry for the late reply.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <jgiese@...> wrote:

Without a BPM can get pretty tricky depending on how Epicor is creating/setting the data. From a screen customization some things just canâ€™t be overridden from what I have experienced. Is there a specific reason you canâ€™t use a BPM?

Josh

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Miguel Santillan
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2013 5:25 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

Just like a default.

system · September 24, 2013, 6:50pm

For the life of me I canâ€™t remember if I had a standard or in-transaction on the jobhead, and all I was doing was updating a shortchar field and when MRP ran it really hosed the demand links, it was making coparts and all kinds of crazy stuff. Working with support they said the developers told them donâ€™t put DD on the jobhead table. Now I donâ€™t know if thatâ€™s just some standard response type thing or what. I didnâ€™t have time to shake it out so I removed the DD and my issues went away. Just a heads upâ€¦test thoroughly.

Rob Bucek
Production Control Manager
PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311
Mobile: (715)896-4832
FAX: (715)284-4084
[cid:1.234354861@...]<http://www.dsmfg.com/>
(Click the logo to view our site)<http://www.dsmfg.com/>

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nhoyt111@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:12 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Re: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

This is timely for us. Right now we are considering a data directive bpm to limit who can edit and save locked checkbox on job header. This is because we have discovered that Scheduling boards allow job locking and the people who can review the scheduling board are not necessarily who can lock a job.

Rob, is the concern ANY data directive on jobhead?

Thanks

Nancy

---In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <vantage@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
If you run mrp don't put a data directive on jobhead...that's really bad

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

rbird@... wrote:

A Data Directive sounds like the easiest way by far for this.

FYI - I have found myself using Data Directives more than BPM's.

BPM are great if you need a trigger on an event - Evaluates Methods

Data Directives are great is you need a trigger based on a data value changing - Evaluates Data

-Rick

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <msantillan@...> wrote:

Most of our jobs are Released through Job Entry. So I needed to created two BPMs.

One on GetNewJob for any new job created from scratch and the other on Update when FIRM changes from any to any.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Brown
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 2:33 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

It can be done via customization (we started out like that) but it is yet another drag on client app performance. BPM is the way to go.

SC could handle it as well (or DMT - but that is defintely not a user tool).

From: "gmcbroom@..." <gmcbroom@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 1:52 PM
Subject: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

For the majority of jobs, I just click the box manually since we couldn't find a way to set it as a default or make it a mass update in the Job Status Maintenance screen. When I have a large group of jobs to lock the quantity and change the priority I use an outside Macro Keystroke Recorder program. Record it once and play it back 468 times!

Georgia

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <msantillan@...> wrote:

I just was wondering if I was missing something that was as simple as a checkbox. I had the data directive in mind.

On a side note, not all the replies are coming to my mailbox...sorry for the late reply.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <jgiese@...> wrote:

Without a BPM can get pretty tricky depending on how Epicor is creating/setting the data. From a screen customization some things just canâ€™t be overridden from what I have experienced. Is there a specific reason you canâ€™t use a BPM?

Josh

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Miguel Santillan
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2013 5:25 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

Just like a default.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

system · September 24, 2013, 7:20pm

We have a DD on the JobHead table that locks the quantity when the status is changed to Released. It has caused no problem with MRP to date.

- Neil

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Bucek
Sent: Wednesday, 25 September 2013 8:51 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: Re: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

For the life of me I canâ€™t remember if I had a standard or in-transaction on the jobhead, and all I was doing was updating a shortchar field and when MRP ran it really hosed the demand links, it was making coparts and all kinds of crazy stuff. Working with support they said the developers told them donâ€™t put DD on the jobhead table. Now I donâ€™t know if thatâ€™s just some standard response type thing or what. I didnâ€™t have time to shake it out so I removed the DD and my issues went away. Just a heads upâ€¦test thoroughly.

Rob Bucek
Production Control Manager
PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311
Mobile: (715)896-4832
FAX: (715)284-4084
[cid:1.234354861@...]<http://www.dsmfg.com/>
(Click the logo to view our site)<http://www.dsmfg.com/>

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nhoyt111@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:12 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Re: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

This is timely for us. Right now we are considering a data directive bpm to limit who can edit and save locked checkbox on job header. This is because we have discovered that Scheduling boards allow job locking and the people who can review the scheduling board are not necessarily who can lock a job.

Rob, is the concern ANY data directive on jobhead?

Thanks

Nancy

---In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <vantage@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
If you run mrp don't put a data directive on jobhead...that's really bad

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

rbird@... wrote:

A Data Directive sounds like the easiest way by far for this.

FYI - I have found myself using Data Directives more than BPM's.

BPM are great if you need a trigger on an event - Evaluates Methods

Data Directives are great is you need a trigger based on a data value changing - Evaluates Data

-Rick

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <msantillan@...> wrote:

Most of our jobs are Released through Job Entry. So I needed to created two BPMs.

One on GetNewJob for any new job created from scratch and the other on Update when FIRM changes from any to any.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Brown
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 2:33 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

It can be done via customization (we started out like that) but it is yet another drag on client app performance. BPM is the way to go.

SC could handle it as well (or DMT - but that is defintely not a user tool).

From: "gmcbroom@..." <gmcbroom@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 1:52 PM
Subject: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

For the majority of jobs, I just click the box manually since we couldn't find a way to set it as a default or make it a mass update in the Job Status Maintenance screen. When I have a large group of jobs to lock the quantity and change the priority I use an outside Macro Keystroke Recorder program. Record it once and play it back 468 times!

Georgia

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <msantillan@...> wrote:

I just was wondering if I was missing something that was as simple as a checkbox. I had the data directive in mind.

On a side note, not all the replies are coming to my mailbox...sorry for the late reply.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <jgiese@...> wrote:

Without a BPM can get pretty tricky depending on how Epicor is creating/setting the data. From a screen customization some things just canâ€™t be overridden from what I have experienced. Is there a specific reason you canâ€™t use a BPM?

Josh

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Miguel Santillan
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2013 5:25 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

Just like a default.

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system · September 24, 2013, 7:38pm

We also have a DD that locks only the quantity Â when the status is changed to released without any problems with MRP.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Buckman
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 4:20 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Re: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

We have a DD on the JobHead table that locks the quantity when the status is changed to Released. It has caused no problem with MRP to date.

- Neil

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Bucek
Sent: Wednesday, 25 September 2013 8:51 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: Re: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

For the life of me I canâ€™t remember if I had a standard or in-transaction on the jobhead, and all I was doing was updating a shortchar field and when MRP ran it really hosed the demand links, it was making coparts and all kinds of crazy stuff. Working with support they said the developers told them donâ€™t put DD on the jobhead table. Now I donâ€™t know if thatâ€™s just some standard response type thing or what. I didnâ€™t have time to shake it out so I removed the DD and my issues went away. Just a heads upâ€¦test thoroughly.

Rob Bucek
Production Control Manager
PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311
Mobile: (715)896-4832
FAX: (715)284-4084
[cid:1.234354861@...]<http://www.dsmfg.com/>
(Click the logo to view our site)<http://www.dsmfg.com/>

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nhoyt111@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:12 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Re: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

This is timely for us. Right now we are considering a data directive bpm to limit who can edit and save locked checkbox on job header. This is because we have discovered that Scheduling boards allow job locking and the people who can review the scheduling board are not necessarily who can lock a job.

Rob, is the concern ANY data directive on jobhead?

Thanks

Nancy

---In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <vantage@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
If you run mrp don't put a data directive on jobhead...that's really bad

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

rbird@... wrote:

A Data Directive sounds like the easiest way by far for this.

FYI - I have found myself using Data Directives more than BPM's.

BPM are great if you need a trigger on an event - Evaluates Methods

Data Directives are great is you need a trigger based on a data value changing - Evaluates Data

-Rick

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <msantillan@...> wrote:

Most of our jobs are Released through Job Entry. So I needed to created two BPMs.

One on GetNewJob for any new job created from scratch and the other on Update when FIRM changes from any to any.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Brown
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 2:33 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

It can be done via customization (we started out like that) but it is yet another drag on client app performance. BPM is the way to go.

SC could handle it as well (or DMT - but that is defintely not a user tool).

From: "gmcbroom@..." <gmcbroom@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 1:52 PM
Subject: [Vantage] RE: Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

For the majority of jobs, I just click the box manually since we couldn't find a way to set it as a default or make it a mass update in the Job Status Maintenance screen. When I have a large group of jobs to lock the quantity and change the priority I use an outside Macro Keystroke Recorder program. Record it once and play it back 468 times!

Georgia

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <msantillan@...> wrote:

I just was wondering if I was missing something that was as simple as a checkbox. I had the data directive in mind.

On a side note, not all the replies are coming to my mailbox...sorry for the late reply.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <jgiese@...> wrote:

Without a BPM can get pretty tricky depending on how Epicor is creating/setting the data. From a screen customization some things just canâ€™t be overridden from what I have experienced. Is there a specific reason you canâ€™t use a BPM?

Josh

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Miguel Santillan
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2013 5:25 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Can I somehow just set JobHead.LockQty to True without a BPM

Just like a default.

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