9.05.607A MRP Logs: What does this mean?

system · October 15, 2013, 9:00pm

It was bad HD that crashed and not allowing to pass the data. Once we rebuilt and installed the new HD, MRP is running fine.

Miguel A. Santillan

Compass Manufacturing Systems

510-661-6666 Office

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Brown
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:29 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] RE: 9.05.607A MRP Logs: What does this mean?

Excellent point Nancy. On v8, we haven't encountered deadlocking very often (the scheduler is given unresolvable conditions to schedule typically multiple job OPs within the capacity model & job start/due date constraints - and simply can't find a scheduling block sufficiently large to schedule successfully) - but maybe once every two months it happens (and always when we are severally overloaded/backlogged - sometimes for self inflcited reasons that can be resolved.)

If it is a smallnumber of jobs, I audit what it's competing with & whether our production control department inserted needless 'padding' in any steps of our multi job process that squeezed the time constraints needlessly.

If none found (and it is simply a large influx of work we've committed to), I'll temporarily increase capacity in the deadlocked resource and notify operations that they need to shift resources to handle it.

Also be careful you haven't set things up so you are single schedule block scheduling where it may not be needed (say in a flow process or one where there is no real set up & the job ops giving you trouble could be broken across multiple schedling blocks).

RobBrown

VersaProducts

On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 4:32 PM, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@...> wrote:

Do you have a bad method in those abandoned jobs? (Inactive resource being called, inactive contrained part?)

On Monday, October 14, 2013 11:07 PM, "erp07052@..." <erp07052@...> wrote:

turn off your finite scheduling to see if it works without it on

also there are other log files which detail the scheduling process - you should be able to find them in the same file area as long as you have verborse mode on

---In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <msantillan@...> wrote:

We are multi plant.

We have a hard server failure now. Could be the issue.

Anyone know if the 905.600 image is somewhere?

Miguel A. Santillan

Compass Manufacturing Systems

510-661-6666 Office

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nhoyt111@...
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 11:31 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] RE: 9.05.607A MRP Logs: What does this mean?

We used to have this alot in 904 but have been good so far in 905607B. I believe it is deadlocking on the jobs noted above. When ours happened it was due to subassembly parts with method in plant 2 but required on top level job in plant 1. Do you have only one plant? Have you looked at the noted jobs? Could you have an impossible reference with your capabilities / resource group / resource setup fields? We were told to only have one of those fields complete to ensure scheduling can run.

Nancy

---In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <vantage@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

07:44:21 ------------------------------------------------------------

07:44:21 Starting sub-processes

07:44:55 Scheduling Jobs...

07:44:55 Building PartList Level: 0

07:45:35 Building PartList Level: 1

08:49:11 Process 3 not responding. Abandoned during process 'Scheduling~UF000000004317'

08:49:11 Process 4 not responding. Abandoned during process 'Scheduling~DUF00000001119'

08:50:11 Process 102 not responding. Abandoned during process 'Scheduling~DUF00000001229'

08:50:11 Building PartList Level: 2

The Abandoned during process.

Miguel A. Santillan

system · October 14, 2013, 1:58pm

07:44:21 ------------------------------------------------------------

07:44:21 Starting sub-processes

07:44:55 Scheduling Jobs...

07:44:55 Building PartList Level: 0

07:45:35 Building PartList Level: 1

08:49:11 Process 3 not responding. Abandoned during process 'Scheduling~UF000000004317'

08:49:11 Process 4 not responding. Abandoned during process 'Scheduling~DUF00000001119'

08:50:11 Process 102 not responding. Abandoned during process 'Scheduling~DUF00000001229'

08:50:11 Building PartList Level: 2

The Abandoned during process.

Miguel A. Santillan

system · October 14, 2013, 2:51pm

We used to have this alot in 904 but have been good so far in 905607B. I believe it is deadlocking on the jobs noted above. When ours happened it was due to subassembly parts with method in plant 2 but required on top level job in plant 1. Do you have only one plant? Have you looked at the noted jobs? Could you have an impossible reference with your capabilities / resource group / resource setup fields? We were told to only have one of those fields complete to ensure scheduling can run.

Nancy

---In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <vantage@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

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07:44:21 ------------------------------------------------------------

07:44:21 Starting sub-processes

07:44:55 Scheduling Jobs...

07:44:55 Building PartList Level: 0

07:45:35 Building PartList Level: 1

08:49:11 Process 3 not responding. Abandoned during process 'Scheduling~UF000000004317'

08:49:11 Process 4 not responding. Abandoned during process 'Scheduling~DUF00000001119'

08:50:11 Process 102 not responding. Abandoned during process 'Scheduling~DUF00000001229'

08:50:11 Building PartList Level: 2

The Abandoned during process.

Miguel A. Santillan

system · October 14, 2013, 3:37pm

We are multi plant.

We have a hard server failure now. Could be the issue.

Anyone know if the 905.600 image is somewhere?

Miguel A. Santillan

Compass Manufacturing Systems

510-661-6666 Office

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nhoyt111@...
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 11:31 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] RE: 9.05.607A MRP Logs: What does this mean?

We used to have this alot in 904 but have been good so far in 905607B. I believe it is deadlocking on the jobs noted above. When ours happened it was due to subassembly parts with method in plant 2 but required on top level job in plant 1. Do you have only one plant? Have you looked at the noted jobs? Could you have an impossible reference with your capabilities / resource group / resource setup fields? We were told to only have one of those fields complete to ensure scheduling can run.

Nancy

---In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <vantage@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

07:44:21 ------------------------------------------------------------

07:44:21 Starting sub-processes

07:44:55 Scheduling Jobs...

07:44:55 Building PartList Level: 0

07:45:35 Building PartList Level: 1

08:49:11 Process 3 not responding. Abandoned during process 'Scheduling~UF000000004317'

08:49:11 Process 4 not responding. Abandoned during process 'Scheduling~DUF00000001119'

08:50:11 Process 102 not responding. Abandoned during process 'Scheduling~DUF00000001229'

08:50:11 Building PartList Level: 2

The Abandoned during process.

Miguel A. Santillan

system · October 14, 2013, 11:07pm

turn off your finite scheduling to see if it works without it on

also there are other log files which detail the scheduling process - you should be able to find them in the same file area as long as you have verborse mode on

---In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <msantillan@...> wrote:

We are multi plant.

We have a hard server failure now. Could be the issue.

Anyone know if the 905.600 image is somewhere?

Miguel A. Santillan

Compass Manufacturing Systems

510-661-6666 Office

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nhoyt111@...
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 11:31 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] RE: 9.05.607A MRP Logs: What does this mean?

We used to have this alot in 904 but have been good so far in 905607B. I believe it is deadlocking on the jobs noted above. When ours happened it was due to subassembly parts with method in plant 2 but required on top level job in plant 1. Do you have only one plant? Have you looked at the noted jobs? Could you have an impossible reference with your capabilities / resource group / resource setup fields? We were told to only have one of those fields complete to ensure scheduling can run.

Nancy

---In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <vantage@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

07:44:21 ------------------------------------------------------------

07:44:21 Starting sub-processes

07:44:55 Scheduling Jobs...

07:44:55 Building PartList Level: 0

07:45:35 Building PartList Level: 1

08:49:11 Process 3 not responding. Abandoned during process 'Scheduling~UF000000004317'

08:49:11 Process 4 not responding. Abandoned during process 'Scheduling~DUF00000001119'

08:50:11 Process 102 not responding. Abandoned during process 'Scheduling~DUF00000001229'

08:50:11 Building PartList Level: 2

The Abandoned during process.

Miguel A. Santillan

system · October 15, 2013, 4:32pm

Do you have a bad method in those abandoned jobs? (Inactive resource being called, inactive contrained part?)

On Monday, October 14, 2013 11:07 PM, "erp07052@..." <erp07052@...> wrote:

<div id="ygrps-yiv-920289454yiv2794576149ygrp-text"> <div>turn off your finite scheduling to see if it works without it on</div><div>also there are other log files which detail the scheduling process - you should be able to find them in the same file area as long as you have verborse mode on<br clear="none"></div><div class="ygrps-yiv-920289454yiv2794576149ygroups-quoted"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">---In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <msantillan@...> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div id="ygrps-yiv-920289454yiv2794576149ygrps-yiv-626467030">

We are multi plant.

We have a hard server failure now. Could be the issue.

Anyone know if the 905.600 image is somewhere?

Miguel A. Santillan

Compass Manufacturing Systems

510-661-6666 Office

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nhoyt111@...
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 11:31 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] RE: 9.05.607A MRP Logs: What does this mean?

We used to have this alot in 904 but have been good so far in 905607B. I believe it is deadlocking on the jobs noted above. When ours happened it was due to subassembly parts with method in plant 2 but required on top level job in plant 1. Do you have only one plant? Have you looked at the noted jobs? Could you have an impossible reference with your capabilities / resource group / resource setup fields? We were told to only have one of those fields complete to ensure scheduling can run.

Nancy

---In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <vantage@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

07:44:21 ------------------------------------------------------------

07:44:21 Starting sub-processes

07:44:55 Scheduling Jobs...

07:44:55 Building PartList Level: 0

07:45:35 Building PartList Level: 1

08:49:11 Process 3 not responding. Abandoned during process 'Scheduling~UF000000004317'

08:49:11 Process 4 not responding. Abandoned during process 'Scheduling~DUF00000001119'

08:50:11 Process 102 not responding. Abandoned during process 'Scheduling~DUF00000001229'

08:50:11 Building PartList Level: 2

The Abandoned during process.

Miguel A. Santillan

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system · October 15, 2013, 5:29pm

Excellent point Nancy. On v8, we haven't encountered deadlocking very often (the scheduler is given unresolvable conditions to schedule typically multiple job OPs within the capacity model & job start/due date constraints - and simply can't find a scheduling block sufficiently large to schedule successfully) - but maybe once every two months it happens (and always when we are severally overloaded/backlogged - sometimes for self inflcited reasons that can be resolved.)

If it is a smallnumber of jobs, I audit what it's competing with & whether our production control department inserted needless 'padding' in any steps of our multi job process that squeezed the time constraints needlessly.

If none found (and it is simply a large influx of work we've committed to), I'll temporarily increase capacity in the deadlocked resource and notify operations that they need to shift resources to handle it.

Also be careful you haven't set things up so you are single schedule block scheduling where it may not be needed (say in a flow process or one where there is no real set up & the job ops giving you trouble could be broken across multiple schedling blocks).

RobBrown

VersaProducts

On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 4:32 PM, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@...> wrote:

<div id="ygrps-yiv-205721669yiv7631308065ygrp-text"> <div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div><span>Do you have a bad method in those abandoned jobs? (Inactive resource being called, inactive contrained part?)</span></div><div id="ygrps-yiv-205721669yiv7631308065yqt45380" class="ygrps-yiv-205721669yiv7631308065yqt4055996160"><div style="display:block;" class="ygrps-yiv-205721669yiv7631308065yahoo_quoted"> <br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Monday, October 14, 2013 11:07 PM, "erp07052@..." <erp07052@...> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <blockquote style="border-left-color:rgb(16, 16, 255);

border-left-width:2px;border-left-style:solid;">

<div id="ygrps-yiv-205721669yiv7631308065ygrp-text"> <div>turn off your finite scheduling to see if it works without it on</div><div>also there are other log files which detail the scheduling process - you should be able to find them in the same file area as long as you have verborse mode on<br clear="none"></div><div class="ygrps-yiv-205721669yiv7631308065ygroups-quoted"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">---In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <msantillan@...> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div id="ygrps-yiv-205721669yiv7631308065ygrps-yiv-626467030">

We are multi plant.

We have a hard server failure now. Could be the issue.

Anyone know if the 905.600 image is somewhere?

Miguel A. Santillan

Compass Manufacturing Systems

510-661-6666 Office

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nhoyt111@...
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 11:31 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] RE: 9.05.607A MRP Logs: What does this mean?

We used to have this alot in 904 but have been good so far in 905607B. I believe it is deadlocking on the jobs noted above. When ours happened it was due to subassembly parts with method in plant 2 but required on top level job in plant 1. Do you have only one plant? Have you looked at the noted jobs? Could you have an impossible reference with your capabilities / resource group / resource setup fields? We were told to only have one of those fields complete to ensure scheduling can run.

Nancy

---In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <vantage@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

07:44:21 ------------------------------------------------------------

07:44:21 Starting sub-processes

07:44:55 Scheduling Jobs...

07:44:55 Building PartList Level: 0

07:45:35 Building PartList Level: 1

08:49:11 Process 3 not responding. Abandoned during process 'Scheduling~UF000000004317'

08:49:11 Process 4 not responding. Abandoned during process 'Scheduling~DUF00000001119'

08:50:11 Process 102 not responding. Abandoned during process 'Scheduling~DUF00000001229'

08:50:11 Building PartList Level: 2

The Abandoned during process.

Miguel A. Santillan

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